Self learning the japanese language?

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Self learning the japanese language?

Hello people i'm the over reading and under posting leecher of danny choo.com and figure.fm ~_~ lol;;;]

I've been trying to pick up the japanese language through the interwebs, i learn basic hira and kata thru the tables like the ones in the picture.

It took me a while to be able to write them w/o flipping and looking at the table, but reading it fluently is another matter ahaha. I tried reading dannys blog in japanese today, and it took me 1 hour + to finish the wonfes coverage LOL going over constantly to translate kanji and alot of things...

So let's share! How did you guys learn the japanese language? Lessons? Books? RAW Erohon? I would love to have a kanji dictionary with furigana to help me along =w= do share your self learning materials here =P

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arluean
Baker, culinary enthusiast, pastry apprentice in singapore [www]
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    suteki in Australia
    2011/02/08 08:14
    Registered on 2009/07/17. Student/Ashikabi
     

    I learn Japanese through drama, books, podcasts, music, and probably other things that I can't remember^^"

    If you're interested, you can take a look at a guide that I wrote, which pretty much covers the basics, http://www.figure.fm/post/en/19334/A+Japanese+Beginner+Guide+and+My+experiences.html

    Good luck with your studies :)

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      arluean in singapore [www]
      2011/02/08 08:48
      Registered on 2008/10/28. Baker, culinary enthusiast, pastry apprentice
       

      Awesome! XD i bookmarked that page, sadly i have to goto work now so i'll read it up when i get back! much appreciated! XD

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        suteki in Australia
        2011/02/08 09:31
        Registered on 2009/07/17. Student/Ashikabi
         

        haha thanks and np at all^^

        I think this will suit you very well, to get you started. Another good book is "All About Particles" by Naoko Chino. It helps you re-enforce your understanding of basic japanese grammar. It's really cheap too, about 10 dollars on amazon~

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    NyanChoco in Canada [www]
    2011/02/08 08:47
    Registered on 2010/08/31. Student
     

    Master the basic Hiragana and Katakana first, then go on to learning simple sentence structure and grammar. I learned a bit in high school so that was helpful.

    Afterwards there's a lot of self studying that can be done.

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      arluean in singapore [www]
      2011/02/08 08:52
      Registered on 2008/10/28. Baker, culinary enthusiast, pastry apprentice
       

      yeah i've been writing the hira and kata for quite a while now, i'll scramble the order, and occasionally write random phrases in hira and kata....hoping i dun stick too much into the order of the A I U E O thing xD

      The school i was in didn't offer the japanese language course sadly T_T i'm actually thinking of going for lessons actually xD

      Thanks for the advice xD

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        NyanChoco in Canada [www]
        2011/02/08 08:57
        Registered on 2010/08/31. Student
         

        I think its not good to user the order to remember them. Try scrambling them up, with stuff like flashcards.

        Another thing that comes to mind is ANKI, you can use that to help you study.
        You could also look into the JLPT, I'm sure studying for that would help lots.

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    elserge in California
    2011/02/08 09:31
    Registered on 2011/01/22. Amateur artist
     

    I'm currently learning it as well,I use japanesepod101.com, their lessons are pretty good,and they have a few free ones on youtube. I usually listen to their podcasts when i draw, and their videos are great also. So far,I'm just about down with hiragana.I also use the Zkanji for kanji and some homemade flashcards. For practice, i have a few Japanese one piece manga books, so I try reading them.

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      suteki in Australia
      2011/02/08 10:01
      Registered on 2009/07/17. Student/Ashikabi
       

      japanesepod101 is really good, compared to other ones I've used, like pimsleur. Which I'm sure most people who are learning Japanese know.

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    Selidor in UK [www]
    2011/02/08 09:39
    Registered on 2009/01/21.
     

    I'm taking a university degree in the language. Not the cheapest option and it pretty much consumes your life for the duration of the course, but I got a year at a Japanese university out of it and some great teaching, and it's a pretty solid way to learn a language. Having a native speaker instruct you is really great for picking up subtleties though, so classes are useful.

    If you're using Firefox there's an extension called Rikaichan that a lot of people use which lets you mouse-over to get the reading and meaning of kanji.

    Children's books are better for reading practice than blogs etc. - they may not be on a topic that's as interesting as figures etc. but they're a lot more suited to a beginning language learner.

    I read a lot of manga, books and websites in Japanese, and play a lot of Japanese video games. You can't learn Japanese from them, but you can certainly use it to support your learning. Just don't get disheartened if you find that you understand the colloquial structures these things use even after you've got a good handle on basic grammar. There's a lot that isn't covered in standard grammar (but having a good base to work from makes it easier to decipher the more obscure stuff).

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      arluean in singapore [www]
      2011/02/08 19:35
      Registered on 2008/10/28. Baker, culinary enthusiast, pastry apprentice
       

      went straight and installed rikaichan on my firefox xD

      thanks alot for the intro!

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    Mim in Australia
    2011/02/08 10:24
    Registered on 2009/08/18. Nendtaku - 236 unique full size and counting
     

    I've learned that half the battle is showing up. I read Furigana comics I buy or have as scans on my iPhone, watch a good 2hrs a day of subbed anime (MKV file format is great as you can turn off subs for a raw effect if you want) and also do reps of Kanji using a program called Anki, which is free. I've also gone to college for a few years to study it, but in the end you find a confortable system that suits you and yourlife style.

    My primary method is total imersion ie change eveything around you to that language gradually so my iPhone is in Japanese mode, I watch Japanese shows and RL movies, read Managa in Japanse, listen to J-pop / J-rock all the time etc...

    Hope this helps you with some ideas.

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    Affian in New Zealand [www]
    2011/02/08 10:59
    Registered on 2009/04/04. Demon Programmer
     

    I've got a few things I use and even one I made.
    There's a set of Firefox plugins that you can use I wrote about them on a blog:
    http://www.aeon.net.nz/2009/07/learning-kanji-with-firefox/
    Then there's Smart.fm that has a lot of free learning programs, and the last one is a Kana flash card gadget for windows 7/vista that I made:
    http://www.figure.fm/post/en/13334/Windows+Kana+Gadget.html

    I used Smart.fm to study Hiragana and then used the gadget to constantly review flash cards when ever I glance at my desktop.

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    $tranger in ドイツ
    2011/02/08 15:57
    Registered on 2010/06/08. Madman
     

    I'm recently bought a whole set of books for learning japanese. Since I do it in my spare time my studies aren't progressing too fast, but pretty good nevertheless.
    Watching anime helps to learn the spoken language and some vocabulary to a certain degree, because there are many easy words and phrases you can find across most anime series ("Onii-chan no baka!" xD).
    To me the hardest thing is the written language and the Kanji. I made my own flashcards in Anki (making them yourself helps more than trying to learn other people's cards imo).

    I didn't know of Rikaichan yet, thanks for the links! ;)

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      suteki in Australia
      2011/02/08 16:34
      Registered on 2009/07/17. Student/Ashikabi
       

      In anime, they normally speak using colloquial or vulgar language^^" it's good to learn those too but you are probably better off learning the polite form.

      I've used some anki decks made by some other people, they are helpful but yeh, I do find it helpful when I make them myself too. Because the ones you make yourself, you can tailor it to your own liking~

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        $tranger in ドイツ
        2011/02/08 16:47
        Registered on 2010/06/08. Madman
         

        Im not far enough with my learning to worry about formal and informal speech yet, although I'm starting to see some differences between speech patterns (like Mugi's and Ritsu's in K-On or Miyuki's in Lucky Star), But so far I'm mainly using anime to get some basic vocabulary down :P

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    arluean in singapore [www]
    2011/02/08 19:39
    Registered on 2008/10/28. Baker, culinary enthusiast, pastry apprentice
     

    holy shiet guys i went to work and came back and it's like everyone answered all the questions i had LOLOL

    interesting to see how ppl do some learning on their own, it's certainly better to share the materials. And i've got a whole lot of loot from the posts here xD im enriched :P thanks alot people T____T i will certainly try out everything mentioned here and see what suits me best xD

    other then the studying in a university part >_< i'd love that though XD

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    Kushieda in Sydney, Australia [www]
    2011/02/08 20:45
    Registered on 2009/03/30. University Student
     

    Just a few notes if you're looking to pick up some supplements for your studies.
    Grammar: どんなときどう使う日本語表現文型辞典 (3 different coloured teacups on the cover) This is probably the best book I have used to look up grammar, of course you have the internet but this is easier and quicker to pick up and use. Also it has minimal English but it feels natural to use.
    JLPT Study: UNICOM 日本語能力試験 実力アップ Is a series that I'm trying out now and it seems pretty good, similar to the previous recommendation, it has minimal English but you understand it enough to know what to do.

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      arluean in singapore [www]
      2011/02/08 20:48
      Registered on 2008/10/28. Baker, culinary enthusiast, pastry apprentice
       

      thanks alot for the recommendation! i'm constantly reading in japanese to make myself as fluent in it as possible XD

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    Moniquekat (MK) in The Summer Deathray, USA [www]
    2011/02/09 01:07
    Registered on 2010/01/27. Hirano Aya lifeliner TTuTT
     

    I learned how to use read the alphabet from playing video games... =w= The iDOLM@STER.

    I learned most vocabulary and such that I know from games and anime and the like, though that's probably not the best way to learn it XDD

    I have little to no knowledge of grammar, though (sans for saying "I don't understand Japanese" XDD). For most individual studies, it's probably -best- to use a book, but maybe -easier- to use anime or games XDDD

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      arluean in singapore [www]
      2011/02/09 06:28
      Registered on 2008/10/28. Baker, culinary enthusiast, pastry apprentice
       

      best so u can follow the right track

      easier u mean by keeping your willpower there to keep studying right? XD lolol

      i try to read the japanese in games during cut scenes and stuff to force myself to speed read LOL but i just miss out like 3/4 of the things inside ahahah xD like 3rd birthday for example =x

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    Kushieda in Sydney, Australia [www]
    2011/02/09 17:42
    Registered on 2009/03/30. University Student
     

    Oh another point is even though everyone loves anime and manga, a normal conversation is nothing like that at all. Unless you're just learning Japanese so you can watch/read untranslated things and not going to use it in a speaking context, I recommend you throw in some dramas into the mix of media.


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