RED EX-S Gundoom

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RED EX-S Gundoom

Hi Guys!

After researching the web extensively, I finally gave in and bought MCModel's EX-S Gundoom kit, which is their intepretation how an EX-S Gundam would look like.

Mind you, this is the first time I bought a 3rd party model kit, and I only did that because all other review says it's on higher quality, except from some fitting issues

when my order came, the item was in red instead of the usual red blue color, so I wonder. Is this normal? Or did I just get a non-regular edition of the item?

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    mtomczek in San Francisco Bay Area [www]
    2011/11/15 03:34
    Registered on 2009/07/16. Video Game Maker/Made to Order Model Kit Maker
     

    You bought a bootleg kit so with that you get bootleg quality control. Sorry to say it.

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      Hikarunu in Malaysia [www]
      2011/11/15 20:30
      Registered on 2011/04/16. Part time otaku
       

      actually MC Model's quality is quite nice

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        2011/11/16 08:42
        Registered on 2010/02/01.
         

        agreed with Hikarunu..:)
        this isn't a quality control fault in my opinion..maybe a limited edition or simply just a re-color release..

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      Barsona in Bay Area, California
      2011/11/16 15:40
      Registered on 2007/08/03. NEET (no, student, AND employed min. wage)
       

      well, to be fair, red coloring on an Anaheim Electronics MS usually pronounces display/showcase. This is the case for Amuro's Zeta A1 unit, within the timeline of Gundam Sentinel.

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    Shinigami Deathgod in lost?..... [www]
    2011/11/15 08:00
    Registered on 2007/01/08. student/gamer/otaku
     

    It's a special version of the normal blue version.

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    alt in Canada
    2011/11/15 14:24
    Registered on 2008/05/26. student
     

    they made it go trans-am.

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    CVPhased in Makati City, Philippines [www]
    2011/11/15 21:47
    Registered on 2008/06/07. Mecha Collector, ABAP Consultant, Hobby Photogra...
     

    wow... they're now doing color variants of their releases... pretty good for a third party company ("bootlegs" is too derogatory of a term IMHO)... :D

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      Barsona in Bay Area, California
      2011/11/16 02:22
      Registered on 2007/08/03. NEET (no, student, AND employed min. wage)
       

      if it's not from Bandai, I would still call it bootleg

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        2011/11/16 08:31
        Registered on 2010/02/01.
         

        it's not a bootleg if it's their original work you know..:) bootlegs or knock-offs are copies of original work of another company..sure, Gundam models are originally made by bandai, but this kit itself is made entirely different, bandai doesn't have a similar kit so i wouldn't count it as a "bootleg" model..

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          Barsona in Bay Area, California
          2011/11/16 08:47
          Registered on 2007/08/03. NEET (no, student, AND employed min. wage)
           

          regardless of if it's called "Gundoom", they are ripping the design off the obviously existing MSA-0011 (EXT) Ex-S Gundam. Regardless of HOW the model is different, the SD version of this STILL exist -regardless of the age of the kit, or the overall quality of the official kit (since it's very crude, I know).

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            2011/11/16 10:52
            Registered on 2010/02/01.
             

            yes..i know what you mean..but still, the design of the KIT itself is not by bandai, right?they did not copy the kit from bandai, right?.so it is not a bootleg..it is not a "copy" of any original existing kit that bandai has..

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              CVPhased in Makati City, Philippines [www]
              2011/11/16 15:26
              Registered on 2008/06/07. Mecha Collector, ABAP Consultant, Hobby Photogra...
               

              OK, I think we've had enough of this Third Party/Bootleg thing. Yes it's not Bandai, but I'm hoping that there will come a day that there won't be too much debate on this issue and just appreciation that some third party guys are willing to take things one notch higher, like what I've seen in the Transformers community with their third party products. :D

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                Barsona in Bay Area, California
                2011/11/16 19:14
                Registered on 2007/08/03. NEET (no, student, AND employed min. wage)
                 

                I agree, since I am not a fan of copyright. However, with the internet and the concept of intellectual rights, you will come across this problem. Sure the kit when made looks nice (I saw it, it's a gorgeous SD model), but people have to understand why companies such as Bandai sorta frown. It would be nice if the third party and main company would come together and make some kind of strategy plan to make the products (in this case gunpla) better -but I doubt that would happen.

                For gunpla, at least, if people are still modding your kits, then there is more work to be done. And that may be Bandai's strategy...

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              Barsona in Bay Area, California
              2011/11/16 15:38
              Registered on 2007/08/03. NEET (no, student, AND employed min. wage)
               

              regardless of the quality, or the make of this kit that can put Bandai's HG or RG line to shame, counterfeit (which is the same meaning as bootleg) is still counterfeit. Just b/c something is made better than the original doesn't make it ok.

              You can make a Channel handbag with the most exotic materials on Earth, but it will still be a counterfeit from the original.

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                Hikarunu in Malaysia [www]
                2011/11/16 18:36
                Registered on 2011/04/16. Part time otaku
                 

                then,those decals at samueldecal.com and custom resin kit can consider as bootleg too...

                oh, scratch build also can call as bootleg too since they ripped off original design =_="

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                Barsona in Bay Area, California
                2011/11/16 19:10
                Registered on 2007/08/03. NEET (no, student, AND employed min. wage)
                 

                Hikarunu>
                To be fair, yes it is UNLESS they got some word from the company that it is ok (regardless, recast is also bootleg, but I be opening up a can I don't want to open if I go this route, since I seen how extensive you could get into the issue of recast vs. official resin thanks to hobby fanatics).

                Custom Decals, if you created it on your own (for instance you created a new Amuro emblem), and sold it, I would say that Bandai has no legal grounds to pursue (although, I believe they have specifically stated that any thing revolving Gundam and creating your own is off limits).

                Scratch Building, should also be fine if you are NOT reproducing your kit for sale. For instance, modding a kit for articulation (such as utilizing some of the old OLD SD Gundam models, and modding so that they can bend their leg and elbows) is I think WELCOMED by Hobby Industries. It's when you start reproducing your very own kits, and selling them out that becomes a problem to them.

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            Exiled_Gundam in 1000km above the sky
            2011/11/16 20:27
            Registered on 2007/08/22. Castoffable figurines fan
             

            Actually that SD Ex-S was based on the resin kit version (also a garage kit). Most of the time garage kit has better details compared to official Bandai product. The reason it was called Gundoom was because the name "Gundam" itself was already a trademark, so if they actually use it, Bandai can clearly sues the manufacturer. There's several other model under McModel; 1/144 Nu, 1/144 Hi-Nu, SD Nightingale (this one Bandai never produce it), and they are all based on the garage kit version, which considerably look much better than their Bandai counterpart. Here's the McModel Hi-Nu Gundoom for example : http://gunpla-inochi.com/2011/04/23/mc-1144-hi-nu-gundoom-get/
            If Bandai were to made this, most probably the price can be higher. One good part about Bandai version is they follow the design closely, and the plain look actually open up possibilities for more modifications

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    Hikarunu in Malaysia [www]
    2011/11/16 20:08
    Registered on 2011/04/16. Part time otaku
     

    ..and i think people have right to buy it since they use their own money.
    Lets stop discussing this.

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    Hikarunu in Malaysia [www]
    2011/11/16 20:12
    Registered on 2011/04/16. Part time otaku
     

    and buying this doesnt mean stop buying the original.. =_="
    it just Bandai dont produce any of them(yet)


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    Exiled_Gundam in 1000km above the sky
    2011/11/16 20:30
    Registered on 2007/08/22. Castoffable figurines fan
     

    oh btw Catz, yours actually is not wrongly-colored. It's just the special red-colored version of the Ex-S; the Ex-S that formed Deep Striker

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    CaTZ in Indonesia [www]
    2011/11/16 20:36
    Registered on 2007/02/10. Game Designer & 2D Artist
     

    Hi everyone!
    Yeah, I should have research further before making this post :P Thank you for all the info and I aplogize to make such a fuss on this.

    I myself doesn't really like bootlegged kit (such as the ones from Bendi and HongLi) but I learn to appreciate "third party" products, such as this, from my experience with Transformers third-party items :)

    After looking at the pics, I found that I love the red more than the normal blur-white one, for some reason it's really... striking.

    I hope I can finish it soon and post it here :D

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      Exiled_Gundam in 1000km above the sky
      2011/11/16 22:45
      Registered on 2007/08/22. Castoffable figurines fan
       

      oh btw just be careful when assembling it; the plastic quality is lower than Bandai's so the parts are more fragile


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