Super Strike Freedom
Ever since Strike Freedom came out I have always wondered why they removed the Railguns or whatever they are on the wings, couldnt they have made it so that it can get both the Dragoons and the Backpack mounted Cannon? What do you think? With this setup the Super Strike Freedom will have atleast 17 Beams being Spammed. And if your count is missing 2 BEAMs it is because I decided to include the Beam Sabers mounted on the Waist Railguns, they would fire BEAMS ala Zeta Gundam that shoots beams with its BEAM SABER. I can Only Imagine How many more BEAMS it can unleash if mounted on a METEOR Unit. What do you guys think? I'm sure some of you atleast wondered about it too. :D
Edit: I decided to count the beams to pass time :)
2 x M100 "Balaena" plasma beam cannon, stored in wings, mounted over shoulders in use in HiMAT mode
2 x MMI-M15E "Xiphias 3" rail cannon, folded underneath hips, spread out in use
1 x MGX-2235 "Callidus" multi-phase beam cannon, mounted in torso
2 x MA-M02G "Super Lacerta" beam saber, stored on hips (These will shoot out beams like Zeta Gundam Beam Sabers that shoots beams in Waverider mode)
1 x (2 x) MA-M21KF high-energy beam rifle, stored on hips, hand-carried in use, can be combined (Although for the picture their already combined)
1 x MA-M20 "Lupus" beam rifle, power rating unknown
8 x EQFU-3X Super DRAGOON (Disconnected Rapid Armament Group Overlook Operation Network) mobile weapon wings (mounts 8 x MA-80V beam assault cannon)
Thats like 17 Burst of beams and what not
If Mounted on a METEOR:
2 x 120cm high-energy beam cannon
2 x 93.7cm high-energy beam cannon
77 x 60cm "Erinaceus" anti-ship missile launchers (22 per pod, 12 per arm unit, 9 on tail fin) (Ok, I lost count)
17+4+Missles that I dont know how to count anymore, from what I understand its 22 x (12 + 9)
Thats 21 + 440 Missles at a Full Burst Attack! I think...
being a fag here :D
its not rail gun, its positron launcher, or whatever, similar to beam based weaponry
rail gun while use electric as their energy, it also need a sort of hard projectile to shot, mean, it needs bullet
freedom rail gun is in its skirt, both strike F & F
and from yuki nagato trivia
beam are concentrated particle, mean its some sort of particle that act after being added by something i dunno, electricity maybe?
positron... dunno how to explain it, base on SEED series, its just another kind of beam, but strongest at their kind
having sky clear blue in outer layer & blood red in internal layer
GENESIS also seen to shoot this kind of beam, only at much bigger size and amount
the last weapon on SEED destiny... dunno about it, but its weaker than GENESIS in raw power IMO
positron launcher on freedom located on its wings, on Strike, on its belly
the reason why it didn't pack that much kind of fire power maybe because the engineer don't find it anymore useful since kira prefer to hunt(or is it slaughter?) at point blank range, the 1st freedom was made to burst the hell out of everything in longer range, not referring kira preference, so they just change the whole design to pack funnels to fit kira's godlikeness & time lag ability, and positron launcher on its belly for... secret point blank range weapon :D
tho i find it impossible for positron launcher to fit into SF belly... the older version is derived from launcher cannon AGNI from launcher strike gundam, fitted on freedom wings, forbidden gundam binder cannons, so the component must be quite big.... just how the hell it end up there and function really makes me wonder....
lasers are intensified rays, from yuki nagato trivia :D, god i love the ep 22-23 of suzumiya haruhi 2nd season :D
That just completely blew my mind.
The Rail guns errr cannons are on the waist right you are :D gave it a look on mahq after the lecture but the wing cannons are plasma it seams or is it just another term for positron? not sure how things add up, hahahah very educationl sir. But I just find it more V2 Buster Assault freakish fun looking just standing there looking loaded for bare hahahah
Freedom: Fixed armaments: 2 x MA-M01 "Lacerta" beam saber, stored on hips, hand-carried in use; 2 x MMI-GAU2 "Picus" 76mm CIWS, fire-linked, mounted on head; 2 x M100 "Balaena" plasma beam cannon, stored in wings, mounted over shoulders in use in HiMAT mode; 2 x MMI-M15 "Xiphias" rail cannon, folded underneath hips, spread out in use in HiMAT (High Mobility Aerial Tactics) mode, shield, mounted on left arm
Strike Freedom: Fixed armaments: 2 x MMI-GAU27D 31mm CIWS, fire-linked, mounted in head; MGX-2235 "Callidus" multi-phase beam cannon, mounted in torso; 2 x MA-M02G "Super Lacerta" beam saber, stored on hips, hand-carried in use; 2 x MMI-M15E "Xiphias 3" rail cannon, folded underneath hips, spread out in use; 2 x MX2200 beam shield generator, mounted on forearms; 2 x MA-M21KF high-energy beam rifle, stored on hips, hand-carried in use, can be combined
And this one from wikipedia for Rail guns hahah it seems railguns uses electricity, although for Kira's case their Rail cannons :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun
actually in it's waist are the railgun.. while in it's wings are plasma type weapon..
(remember SF hit the Destiny with it's railgun, the destiny takes no damage because of it's phase shift armor meaning it's uses ammo.. not a beam type weaponry)
Well the railgun fires a bullet/penetrator, certainly but it's propelled by an electromagnetic field. So both of those are right. Gundam is pretty 'hard' science-fiction in this respect.
I think the chest cannon in Strike Freedom is a plasma cannon, only miniaturised into the chest (like they did with Forbidden and Blitz Gundams), rather than firing over the shoulders from the wings like the original Freedom.
I don't think it's a positron blaster. It didn't seem anywhere near powerful enough for that when it fired.
The way those two weapons are animated in the show is pretty identical though. (Both are like a red-and-white beam of lightning). One looks just like a larger version of the other but plasma is superheated gases and positrons are antimatter electrons. (So, totally different in principle).
what a way to be so damn technical
actually i have the same thought too. i like the plasma cannon of freedom coz it look like DX gundam double satellite cannon. kinda sad they are taken out at SF but SF overall design still look good on me. and u combine them!! bravo!! haha
I believe that the shoulder cannons mounted on the wings are supposed to be Hyper-Impulse cannons, similar to the Strike's 'Agni' HIC. This is different from other beams in appearance only that the 'Lohengrin' and 'Tannhauser' Positron cannons shoot positrons (The anti-matter equivalent to electrons) that take apart targets on a molecular level, and different from GENESIS because it uses Gamma rays to create such a large blast, radiating everything in it's path with high amounts of energy.
Beam Rifles seem to function similarly to Universal Century rifles in the aspect that the weapons have super-compressed particles, and only requires a little activation energy to release (which explains the power drain when using energy weapons).
SEED railguns are basically giant electric cannons, which only use electromagnetic forces to propel a (seemingly) solid projectile along a barrel.
Also, please keep in mind that although the Strike Freedom's Deuterion Nuclear reactor has a theoretically infinite power supply in the long run, The mobile suit's energy tank (or battery, whatever) can only support So many beam weapons...
those gamma's, positron & impulse look exactly the same D=
i thought they are the same thing to begin with...
well, science wise its different though
Although I do agree that Deuterion Nuclear reactors has a limit such as that, one can only imagine how it can power the METEOR unit, that things sucks power like a battleship and it is not until the Astray Series that METEOR units get their own power unit. In the Seed and Destiny series, METEOR units get their energy directly from the MS's Nuclear Reactors. are two Plasma Cannons too much to ask? hahahha
Again, very informative and very interesting facts that you have stated there :)
Nuclear reactor means that the MS has it have infinite supply of power because it can supply it's own power.. but keep in mind that excessive usage can cause the input can't match the output..
like Destiny case.. because it uses mirage colloid, phase shift armor, wings of light, also it's beam weaponry at the same time at once, it can depleted..
while in SF, IJ, or Legend case (which use the same nuclear reactor rarely we see they get depleted because of weapons only use..)
wow wow wow.. knowledge of beam weapon of seed series.. interesting.. first of all i'm having the same idea.. why not keep the balaena cannon on the wing with DRAGOON unit.. but recently.. after watching double series.. a MS do not need so many type of beam weapon..
there is something i want to share too.. one of the episode in Seed Destiny show that freedom shoot abyss with its rail cannon which abyss was in MA mode underwater and those zaku from ZAFT can't use beam weapon underwater.. thats explain why freedom use that weapon to shoot abyss under water.. but in wing gundam series.. deathscythe gundam can use the beam scythe underwater.. and from what i know.. beam weapon was some kind of heat.. so.. abit of confuse of which one is more logic now..
beam weaponry actually can be used underwater but with a reduced efficiency and effect.. (I dunno how much can a beam weaponry effect reduced while in underwater.. maybe around 60-85%?), while beam weaponry uses a lot of energy, a grunt like zaku with limited storage of energy prefer not to use beam weaponry under water..
about the Plasma weapon things.. actually that's weapon is considered not a energy-friendly, maybe because Lacus engineer consider the SF output that's why SF become what we saw..
sorry for double post, but I forgot to say it too.. while plasma weaponry usually more a mass destruction weapon.. remember Kira way of fighting.. sure DRAGOON, twin beam riffle are the best choice for him..
Unfortunately, Sunrise has been a bit inconsistent with it's 'real science' aspects of it's series. True, beam weapons shouldn't be able to work underwater (the particles transfer large amounts of heat rather than kinetic energy), but I think that in Gundam 00, beam sabers also work underwater (the Exia tore apart an underwater MA in the 1st season) because they use GN particles, rather than beam particles, or something like that.
Rail cannons are considered kinetic energy weapons like other guns, and not energy weapons like beam weapons, which explains why it works underwater. Beam weapons should also work underwater, but their range is so short (a giant cloud of steam forms from the density of the medium) that you might as well shoot them at point blank range.
In G Gundam, you can use anything, anywhere at anytime!! XD SUPER ROBOT BANZAI!!!!!
Although now that it has come to talks about beams. I have a question (Wow talk about turning this into a forum) during Seed Destiny, when Shinn Defeated Kira (Who wasn't willing to fight anyway) didn't he made a move at some point in their battle that he used his shield to 'BOUNCE' a beam to hit Kira? How did that Beam bounce? I don't think it has reflective coating properties similar to the Akatsuki. And what did Shinn mean when Kira Railcannoned him at Point Blank Range saying that "Shinn: If that was a Beam, I would have been finished" or something like that. And to top it off, How did Shinn shoot down the Akatsuki during the attack on ORB? (It was Cagali piloting it back then with the Oowashi Pack) Isn't the Akatsuki suppose to be Immune to Beam weaponry? If I'm not mistaken Shinn used a MA-BAR73/S high-energy beam rifle which translate to Standard Beam Rifle, Or did he slice the Akatsuki with beam saber? I forgot, but still, both type of attacks should have been reflected right?
Gundam science......interesting topic
you even know all the weapon codes o.O
Unfortunatley, G Gundam is filled with super-powered freaks.
About bouncing the beam off the shield, the shield is coated in some kind of reflective coating. The theory behind it is that if the shield absorbs all of the energy, it would melt in no time, so they try to reflect as much of it as possible, making the 'beam bouncing' technique possible. The coating is not to be confused with the Akatsuki's beam reflector, which is a system of tons of tiny mirrors that can control where the beams reflect to, as opposed to a beam coating.
About Railcannons, They are considered kinetic energy weapons, so the Destiny's Variable Phase Shift Armor would be able to survive it. Because of the position of the Strike Freedom's weapons, he could have just as easily used the Chest HIC, killing shinn (VPS armor can't defend against beams for beans).
When shinn damaged the Akatsuki, he used beam boomerangs, which attack differently than conventional beam weaponry. A beam rifle or cannon shoots the particles at a fixed initial velocity, and straight forward. The mirrors of the Akatsuki should be able to deflect direct attacks like that, but might not be able to handle the beams of weapons like boomerangs, scythes, sabers, etc. For example, the Forbidden's beam deflectors (they also curve the HIC's Beam) can bend linear beams, but not beam sabers (that's how kira or athrun, I forgot, made a gash in the reflector shields).
Oooohhh, so Shinns Shield was Beam Coated. And now I get the Rail cannon part. ^_^ And the part about akatsuki is also made clear. Although for Akatsuki's case :D its a little hard for me to swallow that it can Survive a Longhengrine class or whatever hit him at that time (when he blocked a direct fire heading for the Arch Angel Bridge) without even a scratch but can't take a cute beam boomerang ahahahahahha
Oh wait I forgot to say Thank you for the answers ^_^ Thank you!!!
the easiest way to explain it that beam particle velocity can vapor.. the longer the beam particle in air, the less effective the beam is..